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1I commented on our plans on another post about search re: irrelevant results.Ash Zade– Ash Zade Staff2025-06-25 20:15:08 +00:00Commented Jun 25 at 20:15
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59@AshZade My concern is that you aren't actually providing proper attribution. I don't care about the relevance of your results because I'm not a user of this tool. I've rolled my own at home. My content however was ingested into the model and y'all promised me attribution. And yeah, I realize I'm being a jerk about it, but the company made a BFD about attribution when a lot of us questioned whether it was feasible.ColleenV– ColleenV2025-06-25 20:17:29 +00:00Commented Jun 25 at 20:17
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8@ColleenV chatbot seems to be just a wrapper around ChatGPT, so proper attribution is kinda impossible :(M--– M--2025-06-25 22:05:24 +00:00Commented Jun 25 at 22:05
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35@M-- I know, so I would either like to see the company fix their public statements or at least pretend they’re trying to live up to them by using a reasoning model or developing something that sort of looks like attribution. Right now, they aren’t even trying to provide attribution, and they didn’t say “we’ll do our best, but it’s a hard problem.” They said it was non-negotiable if the use of AI was to be ethical.ColleenV– ColleenV2025-06-25 22:54:21 +00:00Commented Jun 25 at 22:54
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@ColleenV this does make sense. I agree that they shouldn't just sweep it under the rug.M--– M--2025-06-25 22:55:26 +00:00Commented Jun 25 at 22:55
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14I’m beginning to think ‘attribution’ was just a way to say “you must link back to SE if you want to use the data” to Google and a way to muddy the legal waters about the licensing just in case the wrong someone got pissed off enough to go to court.ColleenV– ColleenV2025-06-25 23:03:26 +00:00Commented Jun 25 at 23:03
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4Seeing what has been produced after this statement, it’s pretty clear they meant we are not supposed to negotiate about attribution. We won’t get it anyway.user405010– user4050102025-06-26 08:48:04 +00:00Commented Jun 26 at 8:48
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1I asked it to explain programming terms and give attribution to the training material used in the explanation, but it stubbornly refused and claimed it was impossible.Lundin– Lundin2025-06-26 11:34:07 +00:00Commented Jun 26 at 11:34
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7@Lundin I'm not prepared to say it's completely impossible, but I do think someone has to do the work to make it possible. Probably something has to be done during the training of a model to make it attribution capable. I feel very strongly that doing a search of the internet on keywords to try to return some relevant citations is not what "attribution" means.ColleenV– ColleenV2025-06-26 15:30:29 +00:00Commented Jun 26 at 15:30
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