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16I'd consider it completed now. I've changed my mind a bit on the details since I posted this years ago, a completely automatic process would be a bit too easy to misuse. The current compromise solves the main issue.Mad Scientist– Mad Scientist2015-10-29 08:05:38 +00:00Commented Oct 29, 2015 at 8:05
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7Are those thresholds constant across the network or do they depend on the size/activity of the site? -500 (just to pick a number) might be trivial on the trilogy and a major problem on a small beta. Even if we throw out the trilogy at one end and Beer at the other, there's still a pretty wide range in between.Monica Cellio– Monica Cellio2015-10-29 13:10:51 +00:00Commented Oct 29, 2015 at 13:10
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6The thresholds could be adjusted per-site, but this is mostly to allow them to be increased on Stack Overflow if need-be; thus far, having two thresholds has proven to be sufficient, @Monica: the idea being, it makes more sense to gauge the effect on specific users for smaller sites than it does to aim for a universal number of votes.Shog9– Shog9 StaffMod2015-10-29 14:30:00 +00:00Commented Oct 29, 2015 at 14:30
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5Thanks @Shog9. I asked because if the threshold is too high it wouldn't trigger to cause a human to look at it on a smaller site, so you'd never have the opportunity to evaluate that effect. A lower threshold calibrated for most of the network and a higher one for SO is a good approach.Monica Cellio– Monica Cellio2015-10-29 14:45:00 +00:00Commented Oct 29, 2015 at 14:45
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3Nearly a full year afterwards, is there still any reason to leave this as deferred, or tag as completed? (or declined)user152859– user1528592016-09-25 13:56:55 +00:00Commented Sep 25, 2016 at 13:56
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3checks to see if this is the very next thing on his list - no, looks like "deferred" is still accurate, @Shadow.Shog9– Shog9 StaffMod2016-09-26 23:09:02 +00:00Commented Sep 26, 2016 at 23:09
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2closely related: erm… I lost 2,134 in reputation I think it safe to say that several users on EL&U have been significantly affected by the upvotes deleted.Mari-Lou A Слава Україні– Mari-Lou A Слава Україні2017-10-29 12:56:51 +00:00Commented Oct 29, 2017 at 12:56
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3I covered this scenario in the answer above, @Mari-LouA; moderators reached out numerous times in this particular instance, and were rebuffed. It's unfortunate, but some folks just don't care to play by the rules.Shog9– Shog9 StaffMod2017-10-29 14:16:31 +00:00Commented Oct 29, 2017 at 14:16
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@Shog9 fair enough. That's all I needed to hear. Thank you, sincerely, for responding. EDIT But if there were repeated voting irregularities why wasn't the user suspended more than once? Never mind... I think I get it.Mari-Lou A Слава Україні– Mari-Lou A Слава Україні2017-10-29 14:22:02 +00:00Commented Oct 29, 2017 at 14:22
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I consider this a reasonable solution. I'm willing to forfeit a little reputation to ensure that vote fraud and other forms of abuse are caught and removed from the system. I certainly wouldn't request an automated process, and I would complain if there were one.Zenexer– Zenexer2018-07-26 03:14:45 +00:00Commented Jul 26, 2018 at 3:14
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2There's a much better system. You split user removal into two processes: * Removed for vote fraud: Delete their votes. *Removed for other reasons: Delete only their unlocked votes. Votes that can no longer be changed by them manually won't be changed by the system when they're deleted.JKreft– JKreft2018-10-26 20:54:12 +00:00Commented Oct 26, 2018 at 20:54
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What if the deleted user was involved in voting freud on the harmed side (for example, someone chain downed him, which was automatically reversed)? What if the deleted user was involved in voting freud, but it happened many years before the deletion, and on another site?peterh– peterh2019-04-28 19:13:05 +00:00Commented Apr 28, 2019 at 19:13
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2voting freud? Was that a Freudian slip? :)faintsignal– faintsignal2019-11-24 03:07:51 +00:00Commented Nov 24, 2019 at 3:07
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Does this mean that the community user can vote multiple times on the same item if two users are deleted that voted on the same one? Or are all but one removed in that case?M. Justin– M. Justin2023-08-20 21:19:21 +00:00Commented Aug 20, 2023 at 21:19
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1Under normal circumstances, user #-1 can have multiple votes counting toward the score of a single post, @M.JustinShog9– Shog92023-08-21 03:03:20 +00:00Commented Aug 21, 2023 at 3:03
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